Agenda and minutes

Traffic Regulation Order Panel
Thursday, 26th November, 2020 5.30 pm

Items
No. Item

1.

Apologies For Absence

Minutes:

There were no apologies for absence received.

 

2.

Urgent Business

Urgent business, if any, introduced by the Chair

Minutes:

There were no items of urgent business received.

 

3.

Declarations of Interest

To Receive Declarations of Interest in any Contract or matter to be discussed at the meeting.

Minutes:

There were no declarations of interest received.

 

4.

Public Question Time

To receive Questions from the Public, in accordance with the Council’s Constitution.

Minutes:

Public questions had been received from Mr Paul Holland:

 

Question 1 – “Does the council/TRO Panel accept that many roads in the borough are restricted to a single flow of traffic by parking on both sides of the road and why are some areas targeted and others are not? If so, why are some areas actively targeted and others not?”

 

The Chair read the following response:

 

“The Council accepts that many roads in the Borough are restricted to a single flow of traffic by parking on both sides of the road.

 

The Council, as Highway Authority has a Statutory duty to investigate these locations particularly where there are road safety and or traffic management / congestion concerns and where possible take action to mitigate or remove the problem.

 

It must be stressed that drivers have no right to park on the public highway and the Highway Authority must be able to exercise hits powers to maintain the safe and efficient movement of traffic across its network.

 

Interventions are prioritised across the network with the classified routes in the Borough (A and B roads) given the greatest priority owing to the volumes of traffic and the level of vulnerable road user activity (pedestrians and cyclists etc).”

 

Question 2 - Does the council/TRO Panel accept that Unity Partnership has a vendetta against areas where TRO’s have been rejected and in some cases has continued these for 9 years?

 

The Chair read the following response:

 

“The Council does not accept this comment.”

 

Question 3 – “What environmental factors are considered when evaluating and comparing speed surveys taken during these unprecedented times to previous “normal” speed surveys? What is the estimation of impact that halving the traffic volume on all roads would reduce overall speed on roads due to less holdups and free flowing traffic? Also are new speed reduction signs a major contributing factor to the reduction in speed and if they were non functional at a prior speed survey, can this be accepted as a like for like comparison? Would speed surveys taken at different times of year e.g. when schools are open/closed be regarded direct comparisons?”

 

The Chair read the following response:

 

“The two traffic surveys that were undertaken were carried out in accordance with standard (national and TfGM) procedures and took place for 24 hours over a 7-day period and included peak periods during the day and evening / overnight. On this occasion two surveys were carried out, one pre Covid and the other after the first lockdown.

 

There is little difference between the two surveys with a variance of around 3mph.

 

The VAS signs have been recently repaired. These devices are advisory and are not part of a process that can issue penalty points to drivers. The devices can and do have a positive effect on drivers behaviour but are not a silver bullet.”

 

Question 4 – “Why is evidence/comments submitted to Unity Partnership that alleged breaches are by requestors households not disclosed to the Councillors for comments?”

 

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5.

Minutes of Previous Meetings pdf icon PDF 235 KB

The Minutes of the meetings of the Traffic Regulation Order Panel held on 24th September 2020 and 12th October 2020 are attached for approval.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

RESOLVED that the minutes of the meetings held on 24th September 2020 and 12th October 2020 be approved as a correct record.

 

6.

Objections to Proposed Prohibition of Waiting - Denshaw Road, Delph pdf icon PDF 11 MB

To consider 11 letters of objection received to the introduction of an experimental Traffic Regulation Order along Denshaw Road, Delph which resulted in the introduction of prohibition of waiting (double yellow lines). The double yellow lines were introduced on an experimental basis to allow their effect to be monitored, before a decision was made on whether the order should be made permanent

Minutes:

The Panel gave consideration to a report regarding objections received to the introduction of double yellow lines along Denshaw Road, Delph.

 

Complaints had been received from local residents on the Northerly side of the road that their driveway access was regularly obstructed and pedestrians were being forced to walk further into the carriageway in conflict with moving vehicles. Observations confirmed that residents could park their vehicles in the additional available space on the South side of Denshaw Road between the school and their properties which meant residents would have to walk a short distance of up to 100 metres to and from their property.

 

The proposal had been approved under delegated powers on 3rd December 2018 and subsequently advertised. Eleven letters of objection had been received from local residents. The basis of the objections was that there was a lack of on-street parking for residents in the terraced properties and a perceived speeding problem resulting from the removal of the bottleneck previously created by parked vehicles on both sides of the road that now allowed traffic to flow freely at higher speeds.

 

In light of the objections, it was acknowledged that properties similar to the ones located on the South side of Denshaw Road were throughout the Saddleworth area, however purchasers might not have given enough consideration to where their vehicles would be kept when they are not in use as privilege parking could be removed at any time. Speed and Volume surveys were undertaken in June/July 2019 and July 2020 showed that the average speed of traffic in all directions were 32.2mph and 29.3mph respectively resulting in the concerns of the residents not being realised.

 

Options considered.

Option 1: To approve the experimental order be made permanent.

Option 2: Not to approve a permanent order and allow the obstructive parking to resume.

 

RESOLVED that, notwithstanding the objections received, the double yellow lines be introduced as detailed in the report.

 

7.

Lomas Street, Failsworth - Objection to Traffic Regulation Order pdf icon PDF 1 MB

To consider an objection submitted to a proposal to introduce double yellow lines along Lomas Street, Hollinwood

Minutes:

The Panel gave consideration to a report regarding objections received to the introduction of double yellow lines along Lomas Street, Failsworth.

 

Complaints had been received from NatWest bank that the car park was regularly being obstructed and bank employees who used the car park were experiencing verbal abuse from the drivers of the parked vehicles. Observations and discussions with the NatWest Bank confirmed that a reduction to the length of double yellow lines to one side of the road would allow the bank access to their car park which would leave a small amount of on-street parking available.

 

The proposal had been approved under delegated powers on 17th December 2019 and subsequently advertised. One letter of objection had been received from a nearby business. The basis of the objection was that there was a lack of on-street parking for customers who would struggle to find alternative parking nearby.

 

In light of the objections, it was acknowledged that the length of restrictions could be reduced and access protection marking at the car park entrance could be introduced to ensure parking did not obstruct access.

 

Options considered.

Option 1: Introduce the original proposal and remove all on-street parking to the detriment of other businesses.

Option 2: Do nothing and let the obstructive parking continue.

Option 3: Amend the proposal and introduce restrictions on one side of the road only.

 

RESOLVED that, notwithstanding the objections received, the double yellow lines be amended as detailed in the report.

 

8.

Public Path Diversion Orders - Diversion of Definitive Footpaths 118 and 185 Saddleworth (part), at The Old Vicarage, Streethouse Lane, Dobcross and at Mount Sorrel, Mount Lane, Dobcross pdf icon PDF 320 KB

To seek approval to the making of a Combined Diversion, Modification of Definitive Map and Statement Order for Footpaths 118 Saddleworth (part) and 185 Saddleworth (part) at The Old Vicarage, Streethouse Lane and Mount Sorrel, Mount Lane, Dobcross as detailed in the report.

Minutes:

The Panel gave consideration to a report which sought approval to the making of a Combined Diversion, Modification of Definitive Map and Statement Order for Footpaths 118 Saddleworth (part) and 185 Saddleworth (part) at The Old Vicarage, Streethouse Lane and Mount Sorrel, Mount Lane, Dobcross.

 

An application had been received from the owner of The Old Vicarage and Mount Sorrel for the diversion of 118 Saddleworth that passed through the physical buildings of The Old Vicarage and 185 Saddleworth that passed through the proposed development and garden of Mount Sorrel. In light of draft guidance on public rights of way passing through gardens and a new development, it was considered that in the interest of the resident and footpath users, the footpath should be diverted as users would not feel comfortable following a path that could infringe on the privacy of a house owner. The new alignment would take the paths away from any buildings and across farm fields.

 

RESOLVED that:

1.    A Combined Public Path Diversion Order for the diversion of Footpath 118 Saddleworth (part) pursuant to Section 119 of the Highways Act 1980 and a Combined Public Path Diversion order for the diversion of Footpath 185 Saddleworth (part) pursuant to s257 Town & Country Planning Act 1990 as detailed in the report be agreed and officers be authorised to carry out the necessary procedures with a view to confirming the Order in the event that no objections are made to the Order.

2.    A Modification Order to the Definitive Map and Statement for Footpaths 118 (part) and 185 (part) be agreed as detailed in the report.